Posts by Anders Andersen

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There are some real beauties posted here!

by stillin in

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this one is worth repeating.

it was buried in a thread and u've been thinking about it all day.. a quote from mark twain, one of my all-time heroes.. "it's easier to fool a man than it is to convince him that he has been fooled.".

isn't that the truth....

Anders Andersen

Makemeanunbeliever6 days agoDr Wilder-Smith (A former evolutionist 3 earned doctorate scientist)
"The Evolutionary model says that it is not necessary to assume the existence of anything, besides matter and energy, to produce life. That proposition is unscientific. We know perfectly well that if you leave matter to itself, it does not organize itself - in spite of all the efforts in recent years to prove that it does."

"The ancient Creationist Book says that it is not necessary to assume the existence of anything, besides energy, to produce God. That proposition is unscientific. We know perfectly well that if you leave energy to itself, it does not organize itself becoming omniscient and omnipotent - in spite of all the efforts in thousands of years to prove that it does."

I always cry a bit when people point at lack of evidence and supposed unscientific reasoning to plead in favor of any highly unscientific and unproven assumption that any God exists.

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Biblical clues to what God the Jews worshipped

by Crazyguy in

recently there is a royal bulla that was found in jerusalem, that of the judean king hezekiah on it was two egyptian ankhs and a wings sun disk.

there have been other artifacts found with that of the egyptian scarab beatle which relates to sun worship.

so does the bible give any clues to the god of the jews?.

Anders Andersen

Interesting OP!

When the news about that bulla broke, several Witnesses shared that news item on Facebook.

All comments were "you see, Bible is true and correct!"

Until someone noticed the winged suns and Tammuz / phallic symbol.

Then most comments were "Yeah right, as if that belonged to Hezekiah"

Well waddayathink.....some other king Hezekiah son of Ahaz lived in the palace on mount Ofel at the same time, and threw his bulla out?

They don't recognise truth if it slaps them in the face :-(

(And yes, most of us were the same before we woke up)

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Time for Jokes.....Tell Us Your Favorite JW Joke!

by new boy in

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friends

i like rodney dangerfielsd's .

"so i hear a knock at the door.

i open the door and there are two jehovah's witness, they look at me and both say 'they are not interested' ....i get no respect.. and .

Anders Andersen

What the Chinese word for 'Jehovah's Witnesses'?

Ding-Dong

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The Retractable Dangling Carrot

by TMS in

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friends

some scattered thoughts about the granting or denial of privileges of service as a control mechanism:.

this method of persuasion involving reward or punishment is so deeply ingrained in watchtower function, it is second nature.

although sometimes subtle, sometimes blatant, everyone from new bible study to traveling overseer is subconsciously aware of the possible limiting of his official opportunities to serve god and his brothers.. .

Anders Andersen

Interestingly, FS is never used as a carrot.

No matter how far demoted you are, you can always go into field service (unless DF).

Put on restrictions? No answering for you during the meetings, so you can improve your spiritual health. Uh...how is that going to help?

Now if they said: you're on restrictions, no FS for you, use that time to work on your spiritual health instead...that might make sense.

Are you a (seemingly) 'repentant' pedo? No mic roving of reading paragraphs for you, because you might be dangerous.

But you can go out in FS and meet all kinds of nice young people to witness to.

FS must always go on. New recruits and their money are needed...

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At the doors.

by Sabin in

what were some of the derogatory things you heard or said about house holders?

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i was taught that if they didn't answer the door & you knew they were in it was always that they had a guilty conscience..

Anders Andersen

An elderly sister, anointed, a little weird (somehow most anointed are?), was out doing street witnessing.

She approached a disabled man in a wheelchair. Of course she told him about paradise, where even the lame would leap like deer. He politely expressed his lack of interest.

"Well, just keep sitting in your wheelchair then, if you like that so much!"....

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Anders Andersen

I don't really get why someone would need to know the truth, before being able to recognise and reject bullsh*t.

Example: I have a transparent elephant in my living room.

Does that sound true to you?

Do you really need to know whether the elephant is actually in my garden, or not transparent, or a rabbit?

Or maybe it's a complete lie?

Just reject the bullsh*t already!

No need for an alternative explanation first...

That you don't know (your new version of) truth yet, does not mean the bullsh*t is true, trueish, or worth adhering to.

Now the cult mantra 'where else would we go?' assumes you'll go anywhere.

But actually when rejecting Watchtower dogma does not make you go anywhere.

You'll be the same person in the same life, but with a different pastime (and likely different friends).

There's plenty of time to research and try whatever you want to find 'somewhere to go' if you want that (without the fear of being dfed for reading wrong materials, visiting wrong churches, etc)

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Canadian Branch Office directed a congregation to lock the door during the meetings

by Watchtower-Free in

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/137091096103/canadian-branch-office-directed-a-congregation-i.

Anders Andersen

In my safe European country without any persecution issues, KH Doors are normally locked during meetings for as long as I can remember.

John 20:19 is used as the basis for this.

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The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

by redpilltwice in

well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

thank you all for the encouraging replies.

one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

Anders Andersen

Yup, the dissenting stories flow once they feel it's safe.

For some of my friends I'm still wondering why the hell they are still in.

They agree it's a failing Borg, shit everywhere, with no evidence for a God, and the Bible is a erroneous human book.....but it's still the truth.... WTF?

Thanks for sharing :-)

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Would I lie to you?

by slimboyfat in

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friends

given recent posts on the forum and discussion, maybe we could play this game: would i lie to you?

in the uk we have this tv programme where minor celebrities tell weird or embarrassing stories about themselves and the rest of the participants have to guess if it is a true story or made up.

when the others have voted then the person reveals if the story is true or false.

Anders Andersen

Listener,

I'll comment after I have doen my next Would I Lie To You....

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I predicted a lottery number from a pattern, is the lottery NOT random or is random held to a universal force?

by EndofMysteries in

i've studied and observed several lottery patterns.

this one is now gone so nothing lost by revealing it.

i had a certain history search and noticed that almost each week the past few months a list of numbers not used recently were being used 1 per week.

Anders Andersen

EOM,

So, you picked those numbers right once?

You know that happens a lot actually? Lotteries tend to be won by someone who guessed the correct numbers once ;-)

Anyway, just pick them correct 20 times in a row, and you might be on to something.